I think we're all adult enough here to not let things flame up.A certain type of adventure. I think part of the problem is disconnect on the meaning of style. There are other more important aspect to the style of a game than just graphics. Writing, humor, game play, type of puzzles and interfaces are just a few of the different aspects of style that games can have. The total package is the style of the game. No one wants it to be VGA or low rez FMV games.DeadPoolX wrote:TellTale understands Adventures.
Dave Grossman wrote:while I was working at LucasArts, I played some of the Sierra titles, and others, you know, checking out the competition. I found those games interesting and challenging, but ultimately very frustrating. They tended to punish curiosity with death, and they had all these puzzles where the solutions were amusing but often arbitrary and more or less impossible to figure out. It was like no one was thinking about what it would actually be like to PLAY the game.
At least that.DeadPoolX wrote:That in of itself puts anything they do with the KQ series miles ahead of KQ8, MCL and BOB.
Well, what else would you judge a new game on, if not the companies previous games? Would you Codemasters, the makers of LSL:BOB, said they were going to make another LSL game... Or, having heard of the utter failure that was BOB, would you scoff at the idea of them doing another LSL game? After all, are you not also judging Codemasters by their previous games? If someone isn't happy with how a company makes a game, it's as simple as that really.DeadPoolX wrote: You're judging TellTale's attempt (which we haven't even seen yet, so it seems premature to discount it) based on previous games. That's as bad as judging Sierra based on their very early titles. Besides, not all reboots are bad. Given TellTale's solid Adventure game history, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt.
You know, the whole Roberta didn't have much of a hand or control over KQ8... I don't know if I will ever QUITE believe that... or see that as an excuse, considering how poorly it flopped. I am pretty sure I read, directly from her in some interview, that the gaming world had changed, and KQ8 was an attempt to follow that changing world within games. So it seems like she knew what she was doing. It flopped and suddenly her hands are off it and she didn't have any control over it.DeadPoolX wrote: KQ8, MCL and BOB weren't made by people who understand Adventure games. That's the key difference. Before someone says anything about Roberta Williams on KQ8, we all know she had very little control over it. That wasn't her creation anymore, so it became the child of those who didn't understand or care about Adventures. The same is true of MCL and BOB.
Entirely possible. And I am not discounting that. But I am merely going off their latest few games that I have seen (and admittedly, not played) - but I have not played because they're episodic (or whatever you want to call it). I never even got the 2nd TSL, which I heard just came out, because I can't be bothered to remember it.DeadPoolX wrote: TellTale understands Adventures. That in of itself puts anything they do with the KQ series miles ahead of KQ8, MCL and BOB.
My point here was, a trusted gaming company telling me they're going to remake a classic game. I'd even be leery of them doing a remake of QFG, as your better example cites.DeadPoolX wrote: As for BioWare.. they're not an Adventure company. They make RPGs, which while related to Adventures, aren't the same thing. The only Sierra title BioWare would really be qualified to do would be a remake of the QFG series.
That's because you're a fan of Telltale games! So you SHOULD be excited, and don't let us old folks, who may not be fans of Telltale games, ruin your excitement! It's a discussion, and nothing more! What's right for me, isn't right for everyone!Datadog wrote: Wow. Okay, I'm kinda with DPX on this. After reading the thread title, I thought I'd hop in and find lots of excited posts I could contribute to, but instead... yeah. My sky-rocketed enthusiasm about a KQ reboot just got buzz-killed in a heartbeat by the negativity in here. Practically no one seems happy that a talented group of successful adventure game designers (who have so far stayed true to every franchise they've worked on) are now - for the first time ever - reviving a Sierra franchise.
Yeah! Totally! Because game designers consulted Al Lowe when they made LSL: MCL. Oh wait. They didn't! Oh, but they consulted him with LSL: BOB... Oh, wait, they didn't!Datadog wrote: What's really getting on my mind here is... will Roberta Williams somehow get involved? I can't see them moving ahead without at least consulting her.
Uh... I happen to be an XBOX person...!Datadog wrote: Sure, BTTF is sinfully easy, but both that and Jurassic Park are aimed at mainstream gamers - so everything has to be dumbed-down for Joe X-Box.
Surprised to see a smiley face after that since you also seem pretty disappointed at the notion of TT Games doing it. (I assume that's a screen shot of their forum, since it's not this forum!)MusicallyInspired wrote:Something I never thought I'd see.
I'm speaking figuratively, of course. No offense to you. X-Box, PS3, Wii, I'm talking about modern mainstream gamers in general - the ones who weren't following adventure games back in the day, and are now confused by this bizarre new style of game-play featured in that BTTF game they just downloaded. The main problem with adapting major movies into games is that you'll attract a huge ton of people who barely have any concept of any puzzle beyond "use key on door."Uh... I happen to be an XBOX person...!
That's awesome. It's also a good place to vent your thoughts (just in case TT is scouting for ideas.)Something I never thought I'd see.
